Assault weapons ban down in flames!

[GonHuntin]

The bill has been defeated! The ammentments were added (gunshow & assault weapons ban) but then the entire bill was defeated!

We will have to try again to get a lawsuit pre-emption bill passed.......but at least the assault weapons ban and the "gunshow loophole" ammendments are dead for now!

[Spinne]

;D Awesome!!! Keep contacting your people in Washington, IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR! Your voice, your vote counts!

[Bennie]

O.K. two entries , one says it passed the other defeated, simple minds want to know.

[Bobcat]

GonHuntin's is the latest data!!!

[1st cav sgt ret]

Senate Kills Gun Industry Legal Protection Bill
Updated 4:45 PM ET March 2, 2004
By Joanne Kenen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate, in a surprise about-face on Tuesday, defeated legislation to shield the gun industry from many civil lawsuits after gun control advocates attached language to it extending the 1994 assault weapons ban and the bill's own sponsor repudiated it.

Bill sponsor Idaho Republican Sen. Larry Craig called the legislation "dramatically wounded" and urged its defeat. Craig had wanted a clean lawsuit bill that could not get bogged down in Senate procedures or negotiations with the U.S. House of Representatives.

The 90-8 vote stunned gun control forces, who just a few hours earlier had regarded their own victories on the assault weapons ban and a measure requiring background checks at guns shows as largely symbolic.

President Bush had said in the 2000 campaign that he would sign an extension of the ban on assault weapons but he has not pushed for it. He strongly backed the lawsuit shield bill and had urged the Senate not to add assault weapon provisions.

Bush's mostly Democratic critics had accused him of backing off his pledge to support the assault weapons ban, because this bill was the best shot at getting it enacted this year.

Gun control advocates had assumed the assault weapons and gun show amendments would be stripped in negotiations with the House, which has killed Senate-passed gun control amendments in the past.

But the National Rifle Association in a message sent to senators Tuesday afternoon came out against the bill.

"We will continue to work to save the U.S. firearms industry," said the message from NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre Jr., vowing to "fight this issue another day."

Asked earlier in the day what it would take for the House to accept Senate gun control measures, Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain had joked, "a tsunami." Illinois Democrat Dick Durbin, who like McCain backed the gun control measures, had described those votes as "symbolic -- but it's a big symbol."

Craig, an NRA board member, had pushed hard for the immunity bill, saying it was needed to protect gun makers, distributors and dealers from politically motivated "frivolous" lawsuits designed to drive them out of business. Even if such suits get thrown out of court, Craig said, the industry faces big legal bills.

His foes argue that diminishing the right to sue gives the industry a green light to ignore reckless or careless dealers.

"It would be a license for irresponsible behavior, unconstrained by any civil suit," said Rhode Island Democrat Sen. Jack Reed. (Additional reporting by Jackie Frank and Vicki Allen)

[Bennie]

Thanks guys for keeping us less informed peeps up to date.

[1st cav sgt ret]

now I may be wrong(and it wouldnt be the first time!)but the way I read that is that it was defeated because the DEMOCRATS and gun control advocates added ammendments for the AWB and background checks

[doorgunner]

For ten years we have suffered through this ridiculous crap! Finally there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

[BozoWise]

Man I am finding all kinds of conflicting info on this:

The assault weapon ban went before the Senate today and was voted to be extended by a 52-47 margin. The gun show "loophole" also saw a majority vote in its support 53-46. It's assumed that S.1805 (protection against lawsuits for gun manufacturers) will easily be passed in a coming vote.

Ten Republicans voted to extend the bill. These were: Warner, Chafee, Fitzgerald, DeWine, Lugar, Voinovich, Susan Collins of Maine, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Gordon Smith of Oregon and Olympia Snowe of Maine.

Six Democrats voted against extending the ban. They were: Baucus, Nelson, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Zell Miller of Georgia and Harry Reid of Nevada.


Then check this one out:
www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-congress-guns,0,2780579.story

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=6&t=231710

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=203989

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=231745

[BozoWise]

If the ban goes away for even one day all those postban rifles you own now will be preban when the law returns ;-) Woooo weeeee I can see a mass purchase of collapsible stocks on my x-mas list. I will also be stocking up on high caps again.