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Post by shane on Nov 19, 2003 15:51:42 GMT -5
Snuck up on these the other day, enjoy.
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Post by jdickey on Nov 20, 2003 13:22:28 GMT -5
;DLet's see... eenie, meenie, miney, mo....
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Post by ICMCumin on Nov 20, 2003 19:30:35 GMT -5
NOw JD...... You wouldn't shoot one out of the roost, would ya? ;D ;D
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Post by jdickey on Nov 21, 2003 0:03:19 GMT -5
;DNah.... I'd get CoonDawg to call em. Of course he'd get confused and think they are goats again... Here billy, billy, billy... ;D
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Post by jdickey on Jan 27, 2004 8:54:20 GMT -5
;)F.Y.I. In Texas, it is unlawful to shoot turkeys on their roost! But that's still a cool picture!
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Post by shane on Jan 27, 2004 13:48:03 GMT -5
JD, this pic was taken here at work on abou 4000 ac. w/ No Hunting. FYI, Don't know if that last comment was aimed towards me or was just general info. But, I'll speak my mind, as you may have read in my other post, this is my addiction, I have more respect for a Turkey than any other creature I have ever hunted. Way I see it, shooting them out of the roost is on the same lines as shooting them with a high powered rifle. Now if your disabled thats a whole other ballgame. I hear people say, "well they were not cooperating with me...they wouldn't come in...I had to shoot him with my rifle"...come in??? what to your feeder?? Well, get your butt out of your DEER blind watching your feeder like a buzzard and make a move. When I hunt them, if they are not "cooperating" I will do what ever it takes LEGALY to bag one. It does nothing for me personaly to shoot something standing 100 yrds away eating the corn I put out. That's like shooting Big Bubba while he is setting in his PU at the drive thru at DQ. If you are honestly a hunter....than be a hunter....what ever happened to woodsmanship? ? And I know that's quite an accomplishment to dang near take a turks head off with a rifle at 100 yrds, but I would rather tell you how many pinfeathers I could count on his head at 10 yrds and know I used everything in my power to put me in this position to do that. Woodsmanship is something that seems to be lost these days. I learned so much thru trial and error and from spending all that time in the woods as a young boy with my Grandad and my Dad, soaking up every ounce of info they shared, heck I'm still learning, everyday your in the woods should be a learning experience!! But I be dang'd if I'm gonna sit in a box all day and waite to see "IF" something comes in. This is a wonderful world we live in with so much to offer, don't just waite for something to stumble by. Woodsmanship....... know your land, know the animal you are after, know why they are in a certain area at a certain time of the day or year, and know where they are going when they leave that area. Use the land and everything it has to offer to put you UP CLOSE! Don't just sit there all day and say "well nothing came into the feeder today". Get out and learn Woodsmanship, sure you may spook a few animals from time to time, but before long you will be able to use this land and everything it has to offer, to get you UP CLOSE. Woodsmanship if you don't have it, learn it. Oh, don't worry, they'll still kick your butt somedays, but that's just another lesson. Learn what it is to become a Woodsman and you increase your odds considerably. Not bashing anyone, just my personal opinion that's all, and yes I know you have one too...isn't it great to live in the USA!!!!!! ;D
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Post by jdickey on Jan 27, 2004 19:44:58 GMT -5
:oWhew.... do you FEEL better now? ;D
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Post by ICMCumin on Jan 27, 2004 21:52:22 GMT -5
In Texas, as JD said, its unlawful to shoot the big birds out of their roost, .
Shane, I understand where you're coming from - you are a purist that won't shoot unless the gobbler gets within shotgun range after you've called him in. IMO that is the essence of spring turkey hunting and there is no greater thrill that getting them to come in close.
In Texas it is also lawful (during the season) to use a rifle to take a gobbler. I have done this once in the past, and while it wasn't as thrilling as getting them in close, I offer no apologies or excuses.
I may or may not do it again in the future depending on the circumstances. Maybe that isn't "woodmanship" in your eyes, but it sure puts meat in the freezer.....
And as we all agree - its legal here in Texas.
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Post by shane on Jan 28, 2004 11:36:16 GMT -5
First, let me say again, as in the last line of my post. Not pointing fingers a no one. Just my point of view. And yes it is legal to hunt them with a rifle in TX. Just speaking my mind. Sorry JD if it came out wrong, once again this is in writing...couldn't hear my tone of voice! Just stating the way I see it. After all, isn't that what a forum is for, getting other peoples point of views on things. We are human...everyone is different. There is noway we can all see things the same...boy now that wouldn't be any fun. Yall should hear my brother and I talking this stuff....people think we are going to start swinging at each other at any moment. But we hunt TOTALY different from each other. Had the same two mentors but came away with opposite views....go figure. He is a hardcore deer hunter and don't give a rats backside about Turkey hunting....but he will shoot one in the fall with his rifle while deer hunting. Of course, he will call his little brother up and tell me all about it....just to get me FIRED UP. Were just discussing matters....thats all. Let's hear how you feel about things.
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Post by shane on Jan 28, 2004 11:42:31 GMT -5
PS. Just trying to get this Turkey forum stir'd up abit....getting too dang close to SPRING TURKEY season for it to be this slow......WAKE UP TURKEY HUNTERS!!!!!!! ;D
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Post by Bobcat on Jan 28, 2004 12:03:16 GMT -5
Hey shane,
I just enjoy seeing any hunter as passionate about his hunting as I am about my predator calling.
I am afraid I too fall into the fall/rifle/while deer hunting bunch. Spring is a great time to call......
Good Hunting,
Bob
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Post by shane on Jan 28, 2004 12:14:26 GMT -5
Hey Bob, Man I'm getting out gun'd here. ...But I aint skeer'd Like I said....gotta brother just like ya, we don't cut each other any slack!!!!! Alittle friendly debate......That's all.
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Post by ICMCumin on Jan 28, 2004 21:56:53 GMT -5
PS. Just trying to get this Turkey forum stir'd up abit....getting too dang close to SPRING TURKEY season for it to be this slow......WAKE UP TURKEY HUNTERS!!!!!!! ;D Funny you should mention it, Phil - I started thinking about the spring hunt last night.... Man, I just can't hardly wait. It is a real fun time of the year for me. Hearing the first gobbles on opening day, just at dawn is like hearing a symphony at the London Philharmonic...... (or is that the Phil's Harmonica!!)
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Post by jdickey on Jan 28, 2004 22:13:09 GMT -5
;)Shane... people have been shooting turkeys with rifles long before you and I have been walking on this earth ( unless you are 300 years old). They will continue to shoot them with rifles no matter what you or I think or do about it. I personally have shot only two turkeys with a rifle in over 50 years of hunting, three with a bow, and I couldn't even guessitmate the number I have shot with a shotgun. So at that rate, I am due to shoot one more turkey with a rifle before I die! But let me add, I too enjoy the anticipation and the excitement of calling that weary old tom in close enough to see the wrinkles on his waddle! Do I feel like I am less of an outdoorsman or "woodsman"? No, and neither should any one else that will harvest a turkey with a rifle. Now look at your photograph above, and picture placing a shot at the base of that turkey's neck while out 100 yards (and not while he's on the roost)! A spot about the size of a quarter. How good of a marksman are you? That's the real test. There are those that will aim for the body, and have nothing left but feathers! What's the difference when that bird is ONLY 25 yards in front of you and you BLAST AWAY with your 12 ga. shotgun; you get only a few pellets in his head and he's flopping around on the ground? Or better still, when you put an arrow thru that bird and he's running off down the trail! Which is the more humane method of kill? "Know the land and know the animal you're after".... well, try stalking up and down a mountain range at 8000 to 10,000 feet, with your muzzle loader and looking for that trophy elk! That'll make a "woodsman" out of you real quick. It's not that we don't enjoy the challenge of calling birds, predators, or elk into us; that too could be conceived as not giving the animal an opportunity. There are many who dispise electronic game calls, deer feeders, etc. But the fact is, we are out there in the great outdoors. Therefore we should enjoy the opportunity and consider ourselves as outdoorsmen!
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