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Post by littletoes on Dec 28, 2003 23:25:46 GMT -5
OK guys, heres a stumper-The coyotes are ignoring us! We have set up on stand in fields wherer we have seen them. We have set up within 500 yards of a cow carcass. We have seen them traveling at a certain heading, gotten in front of them by several hundred yards, and never seen them. I have watched the videos, copied them as best as could, but still no luck. Just to add another element, I have also never seen nor heard of another caller in this area. Most are road hunters, or spot and stalk hunters, or maybe even "by-chance" hunters. The land owners we talk to have never heard of anyone calling them, either. They just kinda chuckle and shake their heads at us-but then it gets us in most places! We "camo" up. Watch the wind, and generaly are hunting in places/ways that have not been done before. We get fresh snow almost every day now, so we see the tracks. My buddie says just wait a little till they start comming into season, then they will be all over the place. Doesn't matter to me, its still fun to get out there and try, but maybe with all of your help, I can make it happen a little faster! Thanks ahead of time guys!
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Post by Bearmanric on Dec 29, 2003 9:20:32 GMT -5
LittleToes What Kind of sound's are you using. try next to creek battom's. next too brushy areas. Rick
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Post by TerryinOK on Dec 29, 2003 12:20:00 GMT -5
I have found that it is tough to call around dead cows. They dont seem to respond with their bellys full of gunk. Chances are also that if you seen them they have also seen you. Any warning barks when you enter or call?
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Post by littletoes on Dec 29, 2003 14:04:40 GMT -5
Bearmanric-Have tried next to the creek bottoms-love those set ups. Lots of brush, so we blend in very well. We've tried the Primos "Raspy Coaxer", in a creek bottom sunday, while watching a large coyote that was 1200 yards away, heading in our direction, no response. It just kindof ignored us. Payed us no-mind. My buddie was wearing a white suit, I was wearing Natural-Gear's Snow camo. My partner also tried a couple of coyote calls, he says means-"I'm lonesome, here I am", after the coaxer.
Terry,-Yea, we were hoping on getting one heading for a second course. Bothe time we had no trouble bringing in the magpies, several crows, and even a hawk or two. On some of these set-ups we have been using visual tool-it looks like a varmint that is moving, can't remember what its called.
I don't think that they are actually seeing us, they never look back at us after they pass, they just seem to keep up that pace-eating trot that they do, and just keep going. We spotted one large coyote while headding to another set-up. It was out in a large pasture just covering country. My partner, who was driving, slowed just enough (barely!) for me to slip out of the truck, and into the ditch on the oposite side of the road. After he had passed, and gone up the road a bit I scooted across the road and took a rest on a bob-wire fence that had a little tuft of old grass poking through the snow, all this while in full snow camo. It never even noticed me. My buddie went up the road about 1/2 mile, maybe more, and started calling. This time the animal did stop and look back, but never actually reversed its direction. My range finder told me it was still over 500 yards away from me, too far for my 223. Then it just kept going in the same direction it was originaly going. Typical day for me, but still fun to keep on trying.
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Post by jdickey on Dec 29, 2003 20:08:36 GMT -5
:)Hey Toes.... this time of year I'd use a "pup" call; it's almost irresistable to them!  |
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Post by Cronk on Dec 29, 2003 22:40:56 GMT -5
There is no substitute for a good howler, and the knowledge of how to use it. Howling for coyotes is still new to most callers, but it does in fact work. The sound of a strange coyote in the area will not be ignored by the resident coyotes. It does not matter if his belly is full, the dominate dog will still respond. Sometimes two or more coyotes will come running in with hair standing on end and looking to kick some stranger's butt. There is no doubt that a lot of coyotes are called every year with nothing but a rabbit distress call, but a good howler will add more coyote pelts for your stretcher.
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Post by littletoes on Dec 30, 2003 1:33:36 GMT -5
Thanks guys!
Cronk-I think you got it nailed! This is exactly what me and my 'yote partner have been talking about. We have a couple of den sites located, and since the coyotes seem to be coming into heat, maybe pairing up or just hanging out in groups, we'll see. I will just call it-The evolution of a Coyote caller! Thanks guys for the help.
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Post by Bearmanric on Dec 30, 2003 8:58:14 GMT -5
LittleToe's I will be heading over to Moses Lake this Weekend. I got a Cronk Howler for xmas.will be using it. it makes some great sound's so easy. one I'm on the Eastside I use a Howl first then I start calling. that seem's to work over there. I have a Loudmouth I've been putting my own sound's on it. will be trying some of them. when I'm in coyote country. I like too Howl about every 10 minute's when I'm calling. sorry I didnt get back sooner been busy. good luck. Rick
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