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Post by bulletbox on Oct 6, 2003 20:16:43 GMT -5
These are small e-calls. I thought I would ask if anyone has seen one of these units and tried them out, before I buy one. I saw a post on another website and thought they may make a good back-up unit.. If you have seen them or tried them, let me know what you think.. Thanks in advance, Website Link: www.reedssports.com/Cgi-Bin/Webc.exe/Catalog/st_main.html?p_catid=1098
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Post by Bobcat on Oct 6, 2003 21:41:59 GMT -5
BB,
They really can't be called a "caller" as much as a trainer. The sounds are supposed to be good. The unit does not have enough power or a large enough speaker to call effectively. You would be better off with hand calls for your back up. You can load the sounds they have on to another unit like the Loudmouth though....and $20 for five good sounds is a good deal.
I know that AP at All Predator Calls tried one. Maybe he can jump in and give us some more information.
Good Hunting,
Bob
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Post by AllPredatorCalls on Oct 7, 2003 9:44:53 GMT -5
Bobcat is correct. I posted this info on another forum - My humble opinion only -
I was sent a Predator Model Cass Creek Game Call as a dealer sample a few months back. They are marketed as a Game Call training device.
They have a very small low quality speaker and 5 very good quality live animal recordings. In my opinion the rabbit distress & the fawn distress could be used in a pinch to close the deal on a coyote that you have called into 100 yards - so as you could then switch from the mouth blown call to the Cass Creek Call - and push the button to get the 30 second rabbit distress while readying your gun.
But the real value is the 5 calls loaded on the caller.
The best thing about the Cass Creek Caller is that they have an "audio out" plug that can be used to plug into the unit - You can plug it into a Loudmouth or a Johnny Stewart Prey Master or Prey Master Power Pro combo and have 5 very sweet LIVE animal distress calls. In fact you could buy a JS Power Pro($99) & a Cass Creek Predator ($18.95 at Cabelas) and have a very nice predator hunting machine.
For a guy who is looking for some sounds to use with & load onto his new generation digital caller, the $18.95 for 5 superb predator calls cant be beat.
They also produce a unit for Elk, Deer, Geese, Ducks, and Turkey
AP
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Post by bulletbox on Oct 8, 2003 22:13:39 GMT -5
I saw some today at San Angelo, at the major Hunting/Fishing sporting goods store there....
I think after looking them over, they have plenty of volume for a backup unit....
I would have bought them, but I ordered them off the net cheaper than I could have bought them there...
But they sure scream, and the sound on the deer and turkey was great also....
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Post by Bobcat on Oct 8, 2003 22:22:34 GMT -5
Hey BB,
We will look forward to a field report!!
Good Hunting,
Bob
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Post by GrayGhost on Nov 1, 2003 14:41:10 GMT -5
Heres a field test report from this morning, wind 1-3mph, temp 51F, calling in an area that was fairly flat, with a couple of small brush breaks feeding onto the flats. Used the Cass Creek only, volume on 3 to start, Jackrabbit in distress sound, called for about 3 minutes-nothing, moved the volume to 6(max), gentlemen, saw a coyote lope over a small ridge, over six hundred yards away, came on a string, killed at 38 paces. Used the GPS to the ridge to check distance. Second stand nothing, third stand, playing with coyote pup and cottontail, 7 minutes in, coyote at about 80yds, busted-but he couldn't out run a 223 55g. V-Max. I think the volume is alittle better then you think, and a coyotes hearing is a whole lot better then you think. Think about it, a coyote can here my coacer from 150 yds, and this thing is a lot louder then any coacer. Don't think it will replace my other calls, but it will have a place in my pack. Takes 3 AAA batteries, don't know about battery life yet, will check back. Fun toy for not alot of money. JMO
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Post by Jay Nistetter on Nov 2, 2003 21:23:05 GMT -5
I had a chance to test a Cass out Saturday. I agree with GrayGhost.
These things are better than you might think. I'm not saying they are great and should b replace other units, but here is my evaluation:
Will they call coyotes? Yes. I watched a coyote came from over 1/2 mile away. I have it on film. Wind was 5MPH steady.
The speaker is tiny and low quality but I have called coyotes in for years with a panasonic cassette player I used in college listening to lectures on tape.
The sounds are amazingly real good. The volume is not loud by any means, but I believe that 90%+ callers blow too loud in the first place. Any louder though and the speaker couldn't handle it.
3 stands, one coyote and a Ford SUV.
I wouldn't consider it a replacement for other callers on the market and I was pleasantly surprised.
This little unit would be great for calling canyon areas where echo is a problem. It wouldn't be effective in windy conditions. Morning calms, fog, edge waters ect would convince you that this is a decent little unit.
If you're deer hunting, elk hunting or just hoofing it away from camp and stumble onto some bear tracks, lion tracks and want to give it a shot, I would definitely consider one of these to carry in your pocket or fanny pack at 4 or 5 oz.
Is it a better unit than the FoxPro, PreyMaster, LM, WT and others? By no means, but this is not just a toy to amuse friends.
Now if I can just get South to send me a FP to test out.
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Post by Bobcat on Nov 2, 2003 21:30:11 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Thanks for the feedback. I have to admit that I am pleasantly surprised. Jay, If you would stop having Rich throw them up in the air so you could shoot them with your shotgun, you might get one to test! ;D I think you two throwing that "dummy" Foxpro in the air and shooting it is what gave Byron the bad knee......he hurt it trying to get away from you two crazies....... ;D Bob
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Post by Jay Nistetter on Nov 3, 2003 22:53:53 GMT -5
Yeah. I did get to talk to Byron and learn he hurt his knee while hunting with us in AZ.
Even though he did get a little kneebriated one night, he never said a word about it. I think Lana took a 3 foot pipe and did a Tawyna on him for keeping her up most of the night. We honestly tried to keep him quiet, but that boy knows some jokes. Had people 4 doors down laughing.
Said he was seeing a doc shortly about it. Sure hope we won't have to call him "Stumpy" in the near future.
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Post by stinkfinger on Nov 6, 2003 0:00:44 GMT -5
OK "Two Dogs" I gotta tell them. You go to radio shack, you buy an inexpensive little amplifier they sell and a cone speaker , which they also sell, and you would not believe the volumne you get from the little Cass Creek caller/ trainer. Fits in a small ammo bag for carring out to those stands..............Good hunting,......Stinkfinger
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Post by Bobcat on Nov 6, 2003 10:53:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the "add-on"! ;D
Bob
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Post by Calcaller on Nov 6, 2003 20:34:00 GMT -5
Hey Stinky, that was my idea. BTW the speaker came from an electronics store, similar speaker but a third the price of Radio Shacks. If you need loud, clear and inexpensive and can live with the 5 sounds on a Cass Creek Caller it is the way to go. However, a hand call (or 2 or 3) are always around my neck no matter what electronic call I am using. PS this little speaker amp and speaker setup can be plugged into a walkman cassette player or a CD player. Crips clear sounds and good volume. Volume can easily match that of the JS. CalCaller (aka - Two Dog to some stinky types ;D ;D)
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Post by stinkfinger on Nov 6, 2003 23:35:43 GMT -5
I didn't tell'em it was my idea"couple'o mutts", I just told them the idea. And I did allude to you in the suggestion..........HeHeHe
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Post by Calcaller on Nov 7, 2003 0:18:04 GMT -5
Okay, I'll let it go this time. We will try it again next weekend.
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Post by GrayGhost on Nov 8, 2003 21:17:16 GMT -5
Another update and alittle tip, used the Cass Creek alittle today, 11 stands, 3 using CC. 2 dead greys later-2 of 4 killed, I am still pleasantly surprised, Now for the tip, take a look at the speaker cover, if you total up the openings, it has about a 1/4" Square inch total of open plastic in front of the speaker(for rain control, would be my guess) but, being from Southeastern NM, were it doesn't rain, I took my dremel and removed some of the grill work, and now, if you want volume-you got volume. Also my hunting buddy pointed out, a good point, it is like a cone speaker, it is directional, so try to keep the speaker point in the direction you want the sound to go, sounds simple, but if its laying on your leg, or ground, the speaker is pointed straight up. BobCat, it ain't a LoudMouth, but its a fun toy, for the pack.
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