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Post by GonHuntin on Sept 2, 2003 21:26:27 GMT -5
The property I hunt deer on has started to have some hogs move through......although I did manage to kill one last year, it is a hit or miss proposition to even see one. I'm thinking I should bait them to have a better chance of keeping them on the property.......so, how can I bait the hogs without just feeding the cattle????? I have read about using soured corn in a hole made with post hole diggers.....will the cows leave this type of bait setup alone????
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Post by captkb on Sept 2, 2003 22:18:58 GMT -5
GonHuntin, I have hunted a simular place, except we didn't have cows. We hunted this place for 4 yrs and only saw hogs on the place once during the day. We shot several hogs on the place each yr, but it was at night under a full moon. The hogs would come into the feeders and with a full moon you didn't need any other light if you was using a scope. We tried using a spot light and each time we would light them up they ran like crazy. A site pro comes in handy to illuminate your crosshairs while hunting like this. As for the cows, my suggestion would be to put up a 3 strand barbed wire fence around your feeders. We had to do this one the place we are currently hunting. It keeps the cows out and doesn't slow the hogs down the least little bit. It may take the deer a few days to get use to the new feeder pen, but it won't keep them away. I have heard using soured corn in potholes works but I have never tried it personally. I have also heard spraying diesel on corn will keep deer and coons away but not the hogs. Again I haven't tried this. I will try to post a picture of one of our feeder setups.  |
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Post by captkb on Sept 2, 2003 22:22:42 GMT -5
After looking at this picture now that its smaller in size you really can't see the pen. I could post this picture alot bigger, but it would take 3 yrs to pull up. LOL GonHuntin, I tried.
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venatic
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Post by venatic on Sept 2, 2003 22:48:49 GMT -5
Be careful what you wish for. I love to hunt hogs myself but i hunt some nice ranches that have heck with trying to keep the hogs from tearing down feeder pens and the feeders themselves.When they move in they can be very destructive.The best way I know to keep them around and moving out in the open is to corn senderos regularly. They will come to feeders of course and its tough to keep them out if you wanted to.Once you start seeing hogs then try the posthole method preferably right before a full moon and then you can hunt at night cause they can get nocturnal with any hunting pressure.
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Post by GonHuntin on Sept 3, 2003 8:57:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, but I'm not in Texas and it isn't legal to hunt at night here......
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Post by captkb on Sept 3, 2003 20:27:55 GMT -5
Gonhuntin,
What part of the country are you in, if you don't mind me asking? I would give the potholes a try, it couldn't hurt anything. I noticed at Academy the other day they have come out with a new product to help bring the hogs in. Its called "Pig Out". I will be picking up a jug and putting it out this weekend just to see how the hogs like it. It says you can mix this with any grain or just pour on the ground and the hogs love it. You all know the sales pitch. I believe it is in a 2 gallon jug and runs about $8.00. If you can put up the feeder pens that would help you out. I know some landowners don't like them, but if ya can I sure would give them a try.
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Post by GonHuntin on Sept 3, 2003 21:05:13 GMT -5
I'm in NE Okla right now.....with the possibility of moving to Houston sometime next year (yuck!).
Nothing against Texas or Texans......but I sure don't want to live in or around Houston!
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Post by captkb on Sept 3, 2003 21:09:51 GMT -5
I can't say that I blame ya on that one. I prefer the small town country life myself.
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Post by CoonDawg on Sept 6, 2003 1:59:01 GMT -5
GonHuntin,if you do move to Houston. Don't move to Houston move to the surrounding areas. Traffic is bad enough for Texans much less for someone just moving here!
If you have (what we call) a day old bread store buy a few loaves,some corn (50 -100 lbs a week) and find you some gallon jugs of dark corn syurp (preferably molasses) and mix this up until its gooey like and let it set OUTSIDE for a couple of days. Once you get ready to use it, leave a trail from the area you plan to shoot at out to about 20 yards. If you do this you will start to bring the hogs in. You don't have to dig a hole, just pour it on the ground. Also if you have a tree that you can hang a large coffee can from, poke some holes in the bottom of it so that some of this stuff drips out and refill it each time you lay a trail.
I suggest you do this a couple of days before you plan to hunt.
Didn't mean to get so long winded but, well I love hawg hunting ;D
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Post by Bug on Sept 6, 2003 8:59:19 GMT -5
GonHuntin':
You don't have to worry about feeding the cattle. Cows cannot pick up loose corn scattered on the ground. Some horses will, though. About the best/easiest, and cheapest feeder I've found is a "pig pipe". Made two ways, if you want to be selective for hogs only, pour a little diesel fuel on your corn. It keeps the other critters away.
To make a Pig Pipe, you use a piece of 4-6" pvc pipe buried about 12-18" in the ground, with one or two nickle to quarter-sized holes at ground level. On this type, I put a piece of wood just below the holes. This keeps the corn off the ground, and the air space below seems to keep it drier. Some Diazanon(sp), etc., in the hole will discourage fire ants. Fill with corn, cap off the top, and you're ready.
The other type is simply a 5ft, or so, piece of pvc (again, 4" or 6") with caps on each end. Glue on one end, but not the other. Use the glued-on end to attach a piece of rope/chain to anchor it. Put four holes in the side of the pipe, about penny, or dime size, spaced around the length. Use the un-glued end to fill it, then tap the cap in place. As the animal roll/root the pipe around, corn is dribbled out. Two things about this type: 1. don't make the holes too big! It needs filling too often if you do. And, 2. Be sure and anchor it to something! Some folks use one of those screw-in-the-ground dog anchors, I use a tree. You would be amazed at how far hogs will move one of these! I lost one, and never did find it. Hope this helps,>>>>>>>>>Bug.
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Post by ICMCumin on Sept 6, 2003 12:40:43 GMT -5
[ Nothing against Texas or Texans......but I sure don't want to live in or around Houston![/quote] GonHuntin - I have lived in the Houston area for just over 7 years now, after having lived all over the world. I am not a native born Texan. But, in short, simple terms, I like it here. In fact, I don't want to leave this place. Sure it gets hot here in the summer, but it gets hot in a lot of other places too. And sure its a big city, but there are quite a few good places to live in the area as well. Like to dove hunt? duck hunt? early teal hunt? goose hunt? deer hunt? predator hunt? hog hunt? noooooooo problem! ;D Like to bass fish? surf cast? deep sea fish? again - no problem ;D You can hunt or fish year round in this part of the state. The hunting regulations here in Texas pretty much favor the hunter over the so-called animal rights idiots - you can varmint and hog hunt year round - at night with spotlights and electronic calls if you want to.  If its too hot to hunt, you can go to Galveston Island or Madagorda Island and surf fish. And if you want to live in the 'burbs or a small town and commute into Houston that is possible too. Just plan on being on the road a lot, like me. I live in The Woodlands and my business is in Katy - 60 miles away. I drive it every day - and there are worse things in life. Can't leave The Woodlands for personal reasons right now.... If you make the move let me know - will help you find all the places you need to find to get started........... |
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Post by CoonDawg on Sept 6, 2003 17:17:58 GMT -5
ICMCumin is right the traffic is the worst part of living in Houston, next to the floods they have been having lately  . Other than that , TEXAS is a great place to live if you hunt and or fish. For what some people pay for a few days hunt you can put money down on a place of your own. I'm trying to work out the details now for a place either in Coutalla or Crystal City, both are nice and all set up under $95,000  |
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Post by GonHuntin on Sept 7, 2003 18:54:34 GMT -5
I don't mind living in Texas......it's big cities that I don't care for.......
I live on 10 acres, have a 100 yard shooting range in my back yard.......I live 30 minutes from one of the best gun clubs in the US where I can shoot everything up to and including 50 BMG out to 600 yards and my wife can shoot sporting clays, skeet and trap (she's addicted), I live 2 blocks from the archery club range, and I own a quarter section of land about 50 miles away.......I trade the grazing rights on my land for hunting rights on the surrounding 480 acres (that's where the hogs are)....I have permission on 1500 acres for bowhunting just 15 miles from my house and permission to predator hunt on 40,000 acres within an hours drive, there are 5 or 6 large lakes within an hour of my house (one is 15 minutes away)......you can see why I hate to move!
What does a decent hog/deer hunting lease go for down there and how far do is it from the north suburbs of Houston? I have a wife and two teen age boys that like to hunt, so figure that into the cost.......I WILL take you up on the offer to help me find a place to hunt and fish if we move down there!!!
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Post by CoonDawg on Sept 7, 2003 22:01:25 GMT -5
Well the lowest price I've seen as of today is $1000 a gun  , if I can get all the details worked out I'll be buying a place in some of Texas big deer country and you will be welcome. Especially hogs! Went to look it over last weekend saw a couple about 200lbs and I'm figuring lightly. There were plenty of tracks, coon, turkey,bobcats and some that look llike they came from a Mt. Lion. Its a small place by Texas standards, only a 132 acres but it has been producing some nice 10 pointers ;D. So I've been checking into small acreage big buck. Oh and its LOW-FENCED! With big neighbors that don't believe in high fences. |
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Post by ICMCumin on Sept 9, 2003 20:17:30 GMT -5
Hey Gon - Sounds like you have a good situation where you are. Moving is always tough (although the view of New Hampshire in the rear view mirror after two years wasn't too bad.) To answer your question about leases, I split about 400 acres with a buddy and we pay $750 each for the year. Its about 1 1/2 hours from Houston. (Rough Rule of thumb is leases cost between $4 and $7 per acre per year depending on the situation.) I also have a lease for the spring turkey season on 400 acres near Cuero that costs about $400. Some of the best turkey hunting in the state I think and well worth it for me  . Keep in touch - when you get nearer to the move, let me know. Maybe I can help you find something.  |
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