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Post by CoonDawg on Dec 8, 2003 18:57:11 GMT -5
What does anybody know about this round and guns made for it. Reason I'm asking is I found a Savage 99 lever action that was marked with this on it in a local pawnshop the other day, it looks to be orginal in 90-95% condition with a scope on in for $450.00. Any thoughts
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Post by GonHuntin on Dec 8, 2003 19:07:57 GMT -5
It's a 250 Savage....any reloading manual will have data for it.......think of it as a 22-250 necked up to 25 caliber.....only reversed because the 250-3000 came first and was necked down to 22 caliber. It is a very good low recoil deer cartridge.
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Post by Bobcat on Dec 8, 2003 19:10:24 GMT -5
Historical Notes:
Designed by Charles Newton, the 250 Savage was introduced by the Savage Arms Company as a high velocity round for the Model 99 lever action rifle. The original loading used an 87 grain bullet at 3000 fps muzzle velocity, and Savage named it the 250-3000. One suspects the 87 grain bullet was chosen because it could be safely driven at 3000 fps with the powders then available. This allowed Savage to introduce it with the ever so sexy name 250-3000. Remember in 1915, when this cartridge was introduced, riflemen were still marvelling at cartridges achieving 2000 fps. About 1932, the 100 grain bullet load was marketed by Peters Cartridge Company and later the velocity of the 87 grain bullet was slightly increased. Now it is simply called the 250 Savage. The Savage Model 20 and 40 bolt action rifles also chambered the round as did the Winchester Model 54 and 70 bolt actions. Late in 1971, Savage announced that their Model 99 would be again available in this caliber. Others such as Ruger and Remington, have made rifles in this caliber also.
General Comments:
Flat trajectory, outstanding accuracy and good killing power on anything up to and including deer are established characteristics of the 250 Savage. It was, and is, excellent on varmints through deer. In the past few years it has been edged out by the 257 Roberts and the new 6mm cartridges. It is far superior as a deer cartridge to the 30-30 or anything in that class, regardless of what some 30-30 addicts claim. Because of its light recoil, it is an excellent choice for youths and women. The 250-3000 is the basis of one of Ackley's best wildcats, the 250 Ackley Improved. Both Remington and Winchester continue to load this caliber. However the 87 grain and 120 grain bullets are no longer factory loaded.
Source: Cartridges of the World
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Bennie
Hunter
Hico, Texas
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Post by Bennie on Dec 8, 2003 20:33:31 GMT -5
My Dad shot a 250-3000 model 99 savage for years and years, he shot white tail and mule deer with it, using a 117 grain bullet it is a most effective round as Bob pointed out from varmints to deer.
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NESoDak
New Member
South Dakota
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Post by NESoDak on Dec 8, 2003 21:24:12 GMT -5
I am awfully fond of Savage 99's and would love to come across the rifle you did. If it has a rotary magazine, and I think all chambered for the .250 do, I personally think the price is a good one. The .250 round is in my opinion at its best with 100 grain bullets. Heavier and therefor longer bullets start to take up powder space pretty quickly. Recoil is a lot like getting hit in the shoulder with a dry sponge. For a rifle in that condition and chambering I would certainly pay the $450.
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Post by texasshooter on Dec 9, 2003 10:28:45 GMT -5
Finding a 250-3000 in a good bolt action rifle is near impossible these days. They are going for BIG BUCKS from what I understand.
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Post by CoonDawg on Dec 9, 2003 18:50:21 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the info on this gun/round. Like I say its all original except the scope was put on it guess I'll be getting an old gun for an anniversery present ;D. If I find I don't like it I'll put it up for sale on here
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Post by 1st cav sgt ret on Dec 9, 2003 23:15:01 GMT -5
Ill take first dibbs on it ;D
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Post by CoonDawg on Dec 14, 2003 18:30:14 GMT -5
Picked up the new issuse of Rifle mag the other day and low and behold it had a great article on the Savage model 99 and the .250-3000 . After reading it went to the pawnshop to get the gun and it was gone It also has a story on the .17 HMR vs. the .22 MAG, so those of you interested in those two check it out. Lesson learned if you find something different put money down to hold it so you don't lose out
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Bearcat
New Member
Saskatchewan Canada
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Post by Bearcat on Jan 19, 2004 12:53:38 GMT -5
Hi Guys!! This is my first post,I am just checkin out the site and found this topic.I own a 99 Sav in 250 SAv.It is a old beat up take down,but is a very accurate rifle.I have put a Williams Peep site on it and it rides in the truck every where I go. I read an article a few yrs back that said it held the 200 yd group with open sights{Around .750}.I was shot by a famous gunman in the rifle industry,but I can't recall his name,but will try to find the article and get back to you on it . Thanks From Saskatchewan Canada
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Post by AlleninAlaska on Jan 19, 2004 14:18:29 GMT -5
Factory loads are kind of anemic by todays standards but in a good bolt gun you can crank it up quite a bit more over factory loadings. It was chambered in a couple of different Savage bolt rifles( Model 20, 40 and 45) it was also chambered by Remington in one of it's classic rifles and by Ruger in the mid 70's. I have been looking for a bolt gun in this cartridge for a while now. I have had a couple of people offer to sell one to me, but I am not interested in platinum plated firearms.
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Post by CoonDawg on Jan 19, 2004 20:21:34 GMT -5
Bearcat welcome to the family, I hope you enjoy your stay here.
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Post by Bobcat on Jan 19, 2004 20:32:57 GMT -5
Hey Bearcat,
Welcome to the Posse! I am glad to see you jumping right in......
Bob
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bubbaokie
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Western Oklahoma
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Post by bubbaokie on Jan 20, 2004 0:22:10 GMT -5
It is a VERY good round. LOL, I have 2...my wife has 2 ...... My twin grandsons (age 8) each have one. That makes 6 in my safe. The twins have matching Rem 700 Classics, wife has a 700 custom w/kreiger barrel and McMillan BR stock (very accurate) and a older tang safety Ruger 77 Lightweight (her deer rifle), and I have an old Ruger 77 and an old (and in excellent condition) Savage 99.
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okcoyote
Hunter
Comanche, Oklahoma
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Post by okcoyote on Jan 21, 2004 1:08:26 GMT -5
the 250-3000 savage is a great little cart. i hav eone in a 99. the price u paid is very reasonable. these things have gotten quite expensive at gun shows, depending on the mod., i have seen these the 250 sav. in the m99 sell as high as 900 dollars. these make a great whitetail gun. u will like it. if not and u want to sell it ...............
have a good one.
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